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Old 1st August 2020, 02:53   #11

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Your issues are very likely not even browser related.

As noted above, IE is no longer updated and is outdated. It was replaced with Edge.

And based on your previous topics, your entire computer is an outdated security risk, so it's likely not a concern for you.
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yeah, i've said the whole PC's a dinosaur. but hangs are only really noticeable IN BROWSERS. any browser.

orbit/uTor/winupdate etc can download a gig or two of stuff faster than ONE TEXT PAGE can load sometimes! seriously, what's with 20 mins to load one page?!

(and then alexora QUINTUPLING those numbers with page bloat... )

i'll at least try updating to Edge. but my experience so far is that every browser ends up the same. is there some underlying "engine" / "kernal" / "interface" which could be the problem? i.e. something slowing down browsers, specifically, but not any other app?
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the 2 things which FF and chrome fail on:

1) cannot save webpages in a SINGLE file (mhtml in IE)
2) cannot view THIS page:
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http://renegaderadio1510.podbean.com/feed
those are the only 2 reasons i cling to IE.

otoh, i find "save image as..." avail in FF in several cases where IE does not offer it. rly rly annoying!

so far no verdict on chrome in this regard.
Most browsers if not all save web pages how they are designed when uploaded as you always have a folder where images/music and other parts of the page are stores then and actual .html file pointing to all of the bits in the folder that makes up the page and that's why you have a page and folder when saved.

Just what OS are you using 3.1? lol
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Old 1st August 2020, 18:57   #14
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you need to stop wasting your time screwing around.

you need:

backup NECESSARY shit. (not programs, just your data)
backup your bookmarks
backup your pics n shit

FIND OUT WHAT ALL YOUR DRIVERS ARE AND GET THEM FOR YOUR NEW INSTALL

find a copy of WIN7 pro or something

fdisk /mbr

format c:

cycle power

install your version of windows

install the drivers

go on your merry way
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Most browsers if not all save web pages how they are designed when uploaded as you always have a folder where images/music and other parts of the page are stores then and actual .html file pointing to all of the bits in the folder that makes up the page and that's why you have a page and folder when saved.
yeah, absolutely hate that.

that's why mhtml is a godsend! one file.

so far only seeing/working in IE. i wuda thunk FF, chrome, etc would have their own equivs by now.

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prob #2 gives me "XML error" in the other browsers. is this another "IE-only" format?

i've told the webmaster for 3 straight years now, but they never fix it. guess they're all using IE (or maybe Edge) as well?
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yeah, absolutely hate that.

that's why mhtml is a godsend! one file.

so far only seeing/working in IE. i wuda thunk FF, chrome, etc would have their own equivs by now.

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prob #2 gives me "XML error" in the other browsers. is this another "IE-only" format?

i've told the webmaster for 3 straight years now, but they never fix it. guess they're all using IE (or maybe Edge) as well?
No idea why you hate it as it's the standard across most websites, mhtml is outdated and shite as IE heavily depends on it, new coding has moved on and made websites much safer.

MHTML would now only work on IE as other browsers have moved on and rightly so, even MS moved to Edge, not a bad browser actually just ignore the M$ hate, and why would their be an equivalent for newer browsers, who in their right mind would develop for MHTML, that would be crazy.

The webmaster is not that clever if the website is still in MHTML and has misconfigured xml.

Head on over to mydigitallife and pick up a copy of Win7, with all $oems$ and install any flavour you wish, hell you can buy an Ultimate serial or even the OS disk off eBay with the COA for next to nothing and install that, then upgrade to 10 for free.
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the website is not "in" mhtml, the copy SAVED is. at least that's my understanding.

idea being that all that html MESS which other browsers save is WRAPPED UP INTO A NICE BOW as a single file. only way to do that in FF, etc. -- afaik -- is to save the whole mess loosely, then ZIP/RAR/7z it together. no thanks!

the xml one, yeah, that's on the webmaster. once s/he hears that it cannot be viewed in FF (let alone chrome and others), he should have snapped into immediate action. i dunno what %age of surfers are using IE (or Edge) these days, but i would think even a rosy estimate might be 20-30%, tops. what business doesn't react to learning that 70-80% of their customers are being stopped outright at the door?!
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the website is not "in" mhtml, the copy SAVED is. at least that's my understanding.

idea being that all that html MESS which other browsers save is WRAPPED UP INTO A NICE BOW as a single file. only way to do that in FF, etc. -- afaik -- is to save the whole mess loosely, then ZIP/RAR/7z it together. no thanks!

the xml one, yeah, that's on the webmaster. once s/he hears that it cannot be viewed in FF (let alone chrome and others), he should have snapped into immediate action. i dunno what %age of surfers are using IE (or Edge) these days, but i would think even a rosy estimate might be 20-30%, tops. what business doesn't react to learning that 70-80% of their customers are being stopped outright at the door?!
If a website is saved as MHTML then it is designed in MHTML, well that's how it is in archive format so when downloading you archive that site so that's how it is saved, you can't change facts, lol

Found this for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHTML

FF and every other browser is not a mess at all, lol html is the standard when writing web pages MHTML was and still is an abortion, if all else fails and you really want to look at a mhtml website nothing is stopping you just run a virtual machine with XP, but why you would want to is anyone's guess lol

Anyone who goes to a website will be told by said website (your browser is out of date and unsecure please update) so not one customer is being stopped unless they are either a bit daft or just belligerent,

And it's about 1.5% for IE market share so hardly worth anyone's time to use.
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i'm still not following. that wiki seems to back me up. it is a format for WRAPPING UP normal HTML pages into a special MHTML file "for archiving".

pretty much EVERY website can be saved such. well, most anyway. every so often i hit a snag, but maybe 99.5%? so it's not (generally) a matter of their underlying code.

when i save in FF or chrome, it saves them as a folder full of loose files, plus a head or index file. IE gives u the choice of saving like that or, specially, "as one file".

as the wiki points out, very few other browsers can handle them. but there are some pointers about kludges and add-ons there; perhaps i'll play around with those.

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1.5%?! so this renegade site is unviewable to 98.5% of their target audience?! even after 3 years of me telling them so????

dopes!
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I used Brave extensively, until they switched from muon to chromium, then i didnt see the point since the scroogle controls chromium, even if chromium is "open source".

chromium (new Brave) is using google tools and apis, so...


my tinfoil hat was glued on in 1983 when a yutz comp-sci teacher explained "terminals/mainframes" to me. (thats what is called the cloud now).
I noticed that... When I'm irritated I've used Pale Moon (an older Mozilla variant) there is Waterfox but often that has the same issues as Firefox Quantum (sorry won't say it without Quantum as Firefox is dead.. Might be forced to if this Opera tracker prick doesn't go away. it is a redirect that starts with blob: ++_+_+ insert address of whatever that blob wants.. and redirects after that to wherever. I got a ransomware email awhile back about oh $1k in bitcoin which is a pain or my porn life goes to everyone which is small hay since most know I have such problems with some of the harder stuff, prefer softer :P and probably end up in the spam folder nevermind it's an older password... haven't the foggiest where I've used it. only place I have is off Roboform.. and they've been problematic on the latest update..
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